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DEFICIENCY APPROPRIATIONS FOR THE FISCAL YEAR

1920 AND PRIOR FISCAL YEARS

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SIXTY-SIXTH CONGRESS

SECOND SESSION

WASHINGTON
GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE

1920

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SECOND DEFICIENCY APPROPRIATION BILL, FISCAL YEAR 1920.

HEARINGS CONDUCTED BY THE SUBCOMMITTEE, MESSRS. JAMES W. GOOD (CHAIRMAN), JOSEPH G. CANNON, C. BASCOM SLEMP, JAMES F. BYRNES (S. C.), AND JOHN M. EVANS, OF THE COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS, HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, IN CHARGE OF DEFICIENCIES FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 1920 AND AND FOR PRIOR YEARS.

MONDAY, DECEMBER 29, 1919.

CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION.

STATEMENTS OF MR. MARTIN A. MORRISON, PRESIDENT; MR. GEORGE R. WALES, COMMISSIONER; MR. JOHN T. DOYLE, SECRETARY; AND DR. THOMAS A. GRIFFIN, CHIEF DIVISION OF APPLICATIONS.

CHANGE FROM TEMPORARY EMPLOYEES TO ADDITIONAL EMPLOYEESDETAILS.

The CHAIRMAN. Mr. Morrison, you have a regular appropriation for your force for this fiscal year of $291,020, and in addition to that you have had two deficiency appropriations of $50,000 each. You now submit an estimate for $35,000 additional.

Mr. MORRISON. Yes, sir.

The CHAIRMAN. What is the status of this additional or temporary force of employees employed by the commission now?

Mr. MORRISON. I think, practically speaking, that this $35,000 has reference to those persons who have been detailed to us from the departments for our fourth district office.

The CHAIRMAN. What is your fourth district office?

Mr. MORRISON. That is in Washington. At a former time the commission set out in detail the situation. We were in need of additional help, and we went to the departments, and they gave us those details upon our promise that we would present the matter to the Congress at the earliest possible time and get money so that we could ourselves take them back on our own pay roll. That matter was presented at a time when, if it had gone through without delay, the money would have been available heretofore.

The CHAIRMAN. How many of those employes have been detailed to the Civil Service Commission from other departments?

Mr. MORRISON. The average is about 65, and I think that the number to-day is 67.

The CHAIRMAN. What is the annual rate of compensation, in the aggregate, per annum? Is it about $70,000?

Mr. MORRISON. I think about $90.000, counting the salaries and bonuses, or it takes something over $70,000 out of the regular appropriations of the departments that have detailed them to us.

The CHAIRMAN. You are not paying the bonus to these employees out of either of these appropriations, but that is paid out of another appropriation?

Mr. MORRISON. Yes, sir: $90,000 is what it costs the Government, and something over $70,000 comes out of the appropriations of the several departments from whom the details were sent to our district office.

The CHAIRMAN. What I am trying to get at is whether or not this $35,000 would permit you to employ these persons for the rest of the year or the entire force for the rest of the year.

Mr. MORRISON. I think so.

The CHAIRMAN. Then it must be on the basis of about $70,000 exclusive of the bonus?

Mr. MORRISON. Yes, sir.

The CHAIRMAN. How many details are there?

Mr. MORRISON. There are 67 to-day.

The CHAIRMAN. From what departments are they detailed?

Mr. MORRISON. Taking first the Treasury Department, from the Public Health Service, 1 at $1,200, 3 at $1,100, and 3 at $1,000; from the Internal Revenue Bureau, 13 at $1,100 and 12 at $1,000; from the Alien Property Custodian, 12 at $1,340, 1 at $1,240, and 2 at $1,100; from the Bureau of the Census, 3 at $1,080, 1 at $1,000, and 6 at $900; from the Federal Board for Vocational Education, 1 at $1,500, 4 at $1,320, and 1 at $1,200.

The CHAIRMAN. Now, Mr. Commissioner, those persons that are detailed, for instance, from the Public Health Service are engaged only in work with relation to the examination of or other clerical duties pertaining to the securing of employees for that service?

Mr. MORRISON. No, sir; I think that would not be possible, because a great many of the registers are common to the different departments. There are some registers that are drawn upon by a single department.

The CHAIRMAN. For instance, take the Bureau of Internal Revenue. You have 25 employees detailed from the Bureau of Internal Revenue, and I want to know whether those clerks are engaged wholly upon the work of examining and securing clerks for the Internal Revenue Bureau?

Mr. MORRISON. I should say not. I think that it would be practically impossible to keep our examiners so engaged that they would be upon work for a particular department.

The CHAIRMAN. How many employees do you have all told employed under your regular appropriation, or under this temporary force, not including these details to your office?

Mr. MORRISON. It happens that I brought with me three dates, November 11, 1918, when we had 654, and July 1, 1919, when we had 320. That did not include the details. If you were to include the details it would make 385. At this time we have practically 390. The number varies from day to day.

The CHAIRMAN. You have 320 to-day?

Mr. MORRISON. Yes, sir.

The CHAIRMAN. That does not include details?

Mr. MORRISON. No, sir.

The CHAIRMAN. So that if you add the details you would have 390? Mr. MORRISON. We would have 385.

ALLOTMENT FROM NATIONAL SECURITY AND DEFENSE FUND.

The CHAIRMAN. You must have received a considerable allotment from the President's National Security and Defense Fund, or from some other source?

Mr. MORRISON. Yes, sir.

The CHAIRMAN. How much did you receive?

Mr. MORRISON. $250,000.

The CHAIRMAN. For how many years?

Mr. WALES. During that one war year. In addition to the $250,000 during the war year, during the last fiscal year we had $10,000 for general purposes, travel, and anything else.

TOTAL NUMBER OF PERSONS IN CIVIL SERVICE.

The CHAIRMAN. Can you give the total number of Government employees in the Civil Service upon the dates that you have just given, or upon approximately those dates?

Mr. MORRISON. I think that is covered by these tables.

The CHAIRMAN. You have a tabulation here showing the number of Government employees at various dates?

Mr. MORRISON. Yes, sir.

The CHAIRMAN. You can insert that tabulation in the record at this point.

Mr. MORRISON. I will do so.

Number of employees in the executive civil service in the District of Columbia on April 1, 1917, November 11, 1918, July 1, 1919, and subsequent dates. [Figures for dates subsequent to July 1, 1919, are based partly upon informal reports.]

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