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the conversation turned on the subject of religious persecution generally.

"Nothing," said he, "can be more opposed to the spirit of our Saviour than to persecute for errors in religious belief."

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Nothing can be more exquisitely absurd," said O'Connell. "Persecution may make a hypocrite; but it will not make a convert. If a man is already disposed to reject my creed, why I only give him an additional reason for rejecting it if I persecute him."

The bishop observed that when the local authorities in New South Wales had assisted the Methodist missionaries to coerce the natives to attend their reed-roofed chapels, the coercion succeeded in securing numerous congregations, but so small was its efficacy in converting them to Methodism, that as soon as it was relaxed-the chapels were empty! "So it will always be," said O'Connell. "Ah! in Ireland the Catholics have ever appreciated and acted on this great truth. Our hatred to persecution is as strong as our love of Catholicity. We had in this respect vastly the advantage of you English Catholics. When Queen Mary's persecution forced English Protestants to fly from England, they came here, and found refuge with the Catholic Corporation of Dublin. But some of you have erroneous

notions on that subject still.

Look at George

Spencer's letter in the last Tablet.* written in the spirit of Queen Mary!

Why, it is

That poor

gentleman had always a strange penchant for persecution. He visited me in London one day, and the object of his visit was to praise persecution! Now,'

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said he, there are a great many Methodists attending their preachers near my residence; if those people could be compelled to come and listen to me, would it not be of the greatest advantage to them? They would hear the truth.' 'And they would not receive it,' said I, just because it would come in the guise of compulsion.' Then, I called his attention to the fact that in Ireland where Catholicity did not persecute, it was prevalent: whereas, in England, where a Catholic queen had been a violent persecutor, the Catholic religion had been all but extinguished. I think this fact seemed to strike him at the time. But pray, my lord," continued O'Connell, abruptly turning to another subject, "have you seen how our poor Irish boys turned out for Catholicity in the poor-houses of the North Dublin Union, and refused to attend the Protestant service? Eighteen poor Irish children standing up for the old faithmay God Almighty bless them! It was Irish all And then the mode in which it was attempted

over.

* July, 1841.

to compel them to turn Protestants—their food was diminished. Really that was a rare idea! Compelling them to fast, to make good Protestants of them!"

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"I have heard," said the bishop, "that an Englishman's wit is said to be in his stomach. I pose the guardians thought these little fellows' faith was in theirs, and accordingly attempted to starve Popery out!"

END OF VOL. I.

C. WHITING, BEAUFORT HOUSE, STRAND.

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London, November 1847.

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